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NEVER TAKE A THIRD PARTY CHECK FROM A BUYER!
Why do you think retail stores all have signs saying they don't take 3rd party
checks? Because it is 99% fraud. So why would you take a check from
a third party? Use your head, use the same security procedures that the stores do!
Your bank account will stay cash flow positive a lot longer.
From: Andy Martins [mailto:owoautos@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:46 AM
Subject: 1997 Acura Integra LS
Hi,
We are LONDON based valuable procurement concern that specialise in the
purchase and shipping of CARS to our numerous customers worldwide. We have
a customer interested in purchasing your car mentioned above for the sum
of $10,500.00. We will arrange a pick up of the car once payment is
confirmed by the seller. Please acknowledge the offer and we will instruct
the buyer to have the funds remitted to your account as soon as possible.
export director [Jude Egobia] |
Date: Tue, 20 May 2003
15:34:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rolied Dave <rolyedcarpalace@yahoo.com>
Subject: 1997 Ford Escort LX Sedan
Dear Sir, We are interested in buying your car 1997 Ford Escort LX Sedan
as advertised on the net. We are a reputable car purchasing and
selling company in West Africa. One of our clients is interested in the
purchase of your car and he has agreed to pay US$1,600 to you.
The car will be picked up by our prepaid agent and shipped to roro port in
coutonou, the republic of Benin,W/Africa. There my customer will
pick up the car. I would be glad if you can contact me as soon
as you can to enable us round up with all the necessary modelities as
regard purchasing the car. Looking forward to hear from you either through
my company's email (rolyedcarpalace@yahoo.com) or call me. Thanks, Rolied.
Tel.#: +234-1-776-6537.
234 1 774 8415. N.B. Please send pic. |
Hey, Stupid!
Let me get this straight. Your little old car isn't selling to anyone locally
or in the U.S. Are you really that stupid to think someone thousands of miles
away on another continent is going to buy your car? Are you that gullible?
If you drive on the right side of the road in America, why does someone in the
U.K. who drives on the left side of the road want your American car? Are
you that stupid to think that some stranger in another country is going to send
you MORE money than your asking price and trust YOU to make
change and send them
the remainder? Besides, what business do you have dealing with a foreign buyer?
Are you nuts? I got an idea, go to Western Union, and wire me all the money in
your bank account. Just leave $50 to get you to Friday. Wouldn't you
rather give all your money to me, someone you love, rather than deal with the
heartache of knowing you got scammed? Let's turn you into a donkey.
USE YOUR HEAD!
A buyer in the UK or Africa does not need to a buy a Camry from you, they can
get all the same cars over there. As I alluded above, why would someone in the UK want
an American marketed car when the steering wheels are on the right hand side of
the car in England? Did you ever consider that? Think about this:
How often do you see her en America a car with the steering wheel on the right
hand side? How often do you buy a car from the U.K.? SO you can see
they really have no legit reason to buy your car. Any time a buyer outside
the U.S. wants to buy your car, a big red flag should go up.
Block International Bidding on eBay Motors
Most people don't know this: If you sell your car on eBay Motors, you can block
international bidders.
Wait a minute, I hear some music! I'm no fool, no sir re, I'm going to save $40,003!
Why didn't I think of that earlier! Their
emails each get stranger too. Check out this email I got from one scammer:
-----Original Message-----
From: Dr David Igho [mailto:dr_digho@representative.com]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 8:40 PM
To: Jeff Ostroff
Subject: CarBuyingTips.com Question
I AM DR DAVID IGHO,A MEDICAL DOCTOR THE MEDICAL CONSULTANT OF DAVE
HOSPITAL LAGOS.PLS I WILL APPRECIATE IF YOU CAN LOOK FOR A USED
AMBULANCE,SO THAT I CAN USE IT FOR MY HOSPITAL HERE IN NIGERIA.EVERY
EXPENSIVES WILL BE TAKEN CARE OFF.I WILL PAY AT THE BETWEEN THE THIS RANGE
10,000-15,000.
THANKS I WILL BE WAITING FOR YOUR REPLY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. YOU CALL AS
WELL CALL ME ON MY CELL PHONE 234-8037167799. REGARD,
DR DAVID IGHO. |
Hey, somebody call that phone number and tell me what it is. I don't want
to waste my own money. Nice little email scam. Wait a minute, I think I hear some Disney music. I'm no fool, no sir re,
I'm going to save $30,003!
Some consumers are fighting back! The Joke is on the scammers now!
There are some people out there that are turning the tables on the scammers.
Potential victims, when they get the Nigerian Scam email, submit the scammers
email to all sorts of spam mailing lists, and porn sites. (I hear the
scammers are into farm animals). Other consumers are having much more fun
with the scammers. One girl allowed a scammer to FedEx her the counterfeit
cashier's check, which costs the scammer money to send. Then instead of
wiring the money to the Western Union location specified by the scammer, she sent
him on a wild goose chase. She told him she had to send it to a different
Western Union location that was somewhat of a drive for the scammer. When
the scammer got there, of course there was no funds for him! Man, that was a
classic that had me rolling on the floor with laughter. I myself have a nice
collection of checks for my own victory garden that I have obtained from
scammers by posing as a potential victim. I love to pose as a victim,
and cause the scammers to FedEx me a check at their own expense. Whenever
I engage the scammers, we refer to them as "my little puppets."
I think you should save the checks they send you and see if the FBI can get
fingerprints or DNA samples. You never know, it may pan out someday.
They cant keep it up if more of us trick
them. We can all have them wasting money FedExing down a dead
end road.
Tips
for Avoiding the Nigerian Scams:
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Gee, this is a tough one. Don't deal with
them at all. Don't answer their emails, just report them to SpamCop.net,
who decodes the email and forwards it to the proper abuse addresses based on
their IP address. You can
also forward the email to the abuse department of their email services,
usually Yahoo. Be sure to include the IP address headers
or they will not process
the spam and close the account.
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If you are selling a car on eBay, block international bidders
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Don't get warm and fuzzy because an official
looking cashier's check arrived via official FedEx. Lot's of people use
FedEx to commit a crime.
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Remember, once you wire money using Western
Union, MoneyGram, or E-Gold, you can never get it back once the cash is picked up at the
other end. It's not a check that can be cancelled. It's the perfect wire
fraud. Jesus cannot get your money back for you.
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Here's a thought: Don't ever wire strangers money,
ever! This will
ensure that you'll never lose it. No wire fraud there. Only wire money
to family and loved ones.
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Don't try to sell your car to anyone in a
foreign country.
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Never trust anyone who wants to pay more than
your asking price.
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Ignore emails from transport or other companies
that "have a client who wants to buy your used car." What a
stupid cover story. Nobody has a client that wants to buy your car. If
the guy wanted to buy your car, he would have emailed you himself! Wake UP!
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Don't ever enter any offbeat financial
transactions. Keep it simple stupid. I am a big fan of clean
transactions. They pay you in person, you
give them the car. Call it a day.
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Trust your gut instincts. If you suspect
something is wrong, don't do the deal. Nearly all victims were suspicious at
first, but did not trust their feelings, and paid the ultimate price in the
end.
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If a buyer gives you a cashier's check, settle
at the bank, or call the bank and verify the check first.
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DO NOT use the phone number on any check to call and verify a cashier's check.
Always look up the bank online and call directly.
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Now that you're aware of the scam, you can have
some fun. When they ask you your address to FedEx you the "Cashier's
Check" that you know will be counterfeit, give them your "address" of the Secret
Service: 950 H Street, NW, Washington, D.C. 20223. That's where they
collect evidence for Nigerian Fraud.
Other
Nigerian Scams: 419 Nigerian Scams A.K.A. Advance Fee Scams
The
United States Secret Service calls this the 419 Scam, because it is
"known internationally as "4-1-9" fraud after the section of the Nigerian penal
code which addresses fraud schemes." It has been around for years and
years, but as you know, we have no shortage of people no privy to this scam. This
419 scam
does not involve cars, though.
How the scam works:
We've all seen these stupid emails. You get spammed by some loser claiming
to be some colonel/general/minister/government official from Nigeria who knows
where there is $60 Million surplus that is tied up by the system, and they need
your help to release it. They are looking for a reputable person (sucker)
that they can trust (you). In return, they'll give you say 25% of the $60
Million (wait now, stop laughing, it gets better) if you'll help them get that
money out by covering the costs of some bogus government fees to free up certain
accounts. There's a million variations on this story, all with one common
thread: They want you to wire them money. My favorite part of the emails
is they always say "God Bless", like they're Downtown Julie Brown or something.
They use words like "URGENT" and "CONFIDENTIAL". If it's so confidential, why
are they spamming millions of people with it everyday? They send you all sorts
of official looking government and bank documents to make it look real. I can do
all that with Microsoft Word. Oh, did I mention that once you wire them money,
all sorts of Snafu's develop? Yes, more complications that require you to send
in more money. This starts a downward spiral for many victims, who get in
so deep, they become convinced it has to work because they invested so much more
money into it. This is like those idiots who in 2000, bought Yahoo at $100, then $90,
then $80, then $70, then $60, thinking it will turn around. Normally I laugh my
ass off when I see these Nigerian scam emails, with their terrible use of
grammar (mine's not much better, don't laugh). I actually look forward to
getting these Nigerian scam emails, they brighten up my day with a good chuckle.
I usually forward them to my buddies for a laugh as we all delete them. I'm
shocked however, at how many people out there don't press the DELETE key, but
rather they hit the SEND key! As in Send Mo Money! Apparently there are
thousands of I.Q. challenged people out there who have fallen victim to this
scam. Some have been lured to Nigeria to squeeze more money out of them,
and held there for ransom and killed. Here's one of the many versions of
the email I usually get:
From: ERIC JONES
[mailto:ericjons03@juno.com] TO: Jeff Ostroff
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 4:03 PM
Subject: INVESTMENT/ASSISTANCE
Attn: Sir/Madam,
My name is Mr. Eric Jones chairman of contract award and monitoring
committee of the ministry of industry and international trade development
,my duty as empowered by the Mauritius government is to provide the basic
amenities, social recreational activities in urban and rural areas. This
program includes assistance to deprived local communities and to
co-ordinate projects and development at the national level, furthermore,
from this projects we have been able to secured some Reasonable amount of
u.s.$21.8(twenty one million eight hundred thousand US. dollars only) as
commission from various contractors resulting from over invoicing ,hence
all the necessary approvals has been completed. These approved fund was
packaged and dispatched through a security company for onward delivery to
its Destination in Europe. These fund was first deposited into a security
vault before we arrange for its movement to Europe through diplomatic
channel using decoy purporting that the fund belongs to an expatriate
company. As we are government officials, we are not allowed to operate
foreign bank account, hence we need you to stand as the beneficiary and
claim the fund on our behalf from the security company. Presently I am now
in Europe to search for a reliable person/company of high integrity
/dignity and one with conscience who will claim this fund on our behalf as
the beneficiary ,and we have agreed to give you 25%of the total sum as
commission for your Assistance effort and 5% will be used to settle every
expenses incurred we will use 70%to invest under your recommendation and
guide and go into joint venture business with you. I would greatly
appreciate your assistance . I look forward to your response as soon as
possible. Best regards
Eric Jones reply
to:ericjons01@netscape.net or call +31-630-555-165 |
Now folks, if you get emails that look similar to these, don't send them to me
and ask what I think. They are all scams, it's a no brainer.
Hey, Stupid!
Let me get this straight.
Wait, hold on, everyone be quiet! Stop the
music! I want to hear what Stupid has to say here. Ok, let me see if
I understand this correctly. Some loser spam emails you, yes little
old YOU out of the blue, and says little old you is the key to unlocking $60
Million clear on the other side of the globe? Are you out of your cotton picking mind!
I mean come on, that has got to be the most stupid thing in the world! In fact,
it's so stupid, I bet the scammers did not even think it would work the first
time they tried it. Let's turn you into a donkey. If these Nigerian
scammers can fool people into sending them money, more power to them! They
could probably talk a pig right into a ham sandwich.
The Financial Crimes Division Of the
United States Secret Service established "Operation 4-1-9" to battle
these scams worldwide. Keep in mind, it's a small understaffed task force, and
the African governments are doing very little to help out. We hear the
Nigerian government offers up a token arrest once in a while. Wow, big
help, there's thousands of them doing it, and so many sellers on so many
classified web sites are getting hit with it, that we theorize there might
actually be companies with armies of employees paid to cold call on every
posting online, hoping to nab a victim. On the
United States Secret Service task force web site, it says
this:
If you have been victimized by one of these
schemes, please forward appropriate written documentation to the United States
Secret Service, Financial Crimes Division, 950 H Street, NW, Washington, D.C.
20223, or telephone 202-406-5572, or contact by
e-mail. If you have received a letter, but have not lost any monies to this scheme,
please fax a copy of that letter to (202) 406-5031.
Some victims have been
arrested when they take the fake cashier's check they get for their car to
deposit it at the bank. They have no idea they are in the midst of a scam.
Other variations of the
Nigerian
scam
There's a million twists to this plot. Other scams involve "get paid to
stuff envelope" scams or "work from home" scams. With those scams, they
claim you'll earn $20 an hour sitting on your ass at home. Yeah right,
like anyone is really going to pay you to sit on your ass, get serious!
Sometimes they want you to pay for "materials" up front, which turn out to be
useless, or don't work, or whatever. They may say you just need to pay
them for setting up a second phone line or fax, or some other excuse. They
will send you money to set it up, then realize they "accidentally sent you to
much money". They will then want you to wire them back the remainder since
they screwed up. Don't fall for this scam. Come on, when in the
history of time has someone EVER sent you too much money?
Don't think this mail fraud cannot happen to you.
This happens all the time, every day to people who have cars or any household
item up for sale on the internet. Also, this scam has other twists, sometimes
it's not Nigerian. Often people get emails from scammers in Scotland,
Germany, England, just about any foreign country. So how do you really know
what country they are in? When it comes time for you to use Western Union
to wire them the money, they specify what western union location to use, usually
near their home.
God Bless -Jeff

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